Welcome – “Nine-year National Football League veteran Alvis Whitted and former Mountaineer tight end Nic Cardwell have joined Appalachian State University’s football staff as wide receivers and tight ends coach, respectively, head coach Jerry Moore announced on Wednesday. Whitted comes to ASU after a year as an offensive assistant at UCLA.”
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Loved Cardwell as a player…..He was the emotional/locker room leader when he played. Hope this will transfer over to his coaching style!
I think some fire on the practice field/ sidelines is something the team needs
Awesome to have Nic back!!
Nic will take the place of Speir and Holt as the motivational factor. IMO, he has more passion than both those guys.
I am really liking these hires and who I hear is coming for the other open positions!
One experience I remember from Nic was getting a huge high five from him in the student union, just cause we were passing each other. The other was when Rauch kicked the game winning field goal at Michigan, and Nic absoulety flipped out.
Love Nic as a Team’s Emotional Leader…Where has he coached before ?
No coaching experience, but knowing Nic personally, he has the ability to built strong relationships with young men. Will be a positive influence. Position coaches are generally not required to have a huge background. They don’t call the plays, they simply help develop the talents. Good hire.
My Nic experience was playing him in FIFA soccer on playstation….dude was just as intense as in a football game (I think I let him win for fear of my life).
Obviously no one read the GoASU article or has a very long memory.
–Cardwell returns for his second stint as Appalachian’s tight ends coach after spending the past seven months as an assistant director of strength and conditioning at ASU, with a direct role in the development of Mountaineer football student-athletes.
He previously served as the Mountaineers’ tight ends coach during the 2008 season, when he helped coach freshman Ben Jorden to first-team all-Southern Conference honors before leaving coaching for two years in the private sector.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY, NICK!!!! WELCOME HOME!!!!
Who is being talked about for the other open positions? I know Stepp was being talked about as the RB coach but I haven’t heard anything on the O-Line or Inside Linebackers coaches…
There’s a strong possibility that Darren Hiller will be our new O-coach. It would be a great addition. He had a great visit to Boone the weekend before last, but I think it might be dependent on his wife’s ability to find a job in the Boone area. I believe she is a principle.
Campus Crime Alert
On Tuesday January 24, 2012 at approximately 8:46 PM, two female students reported to the ASU Police Department that they had been physically assaulted by the same known male acquaintance within the past week.
For more information: http://www.police.appstate.edu/assault
If its a football player, no one will ever hear about it….
You’re an idiot Fred. Students get those emails on a weekly basis and it never makes the news. God I hope you get physically assaulted.
dumb comment.
Someone stole a slice of pizza from the cafeteria. I guess it must have been a football player…you know those guys, all they do is eat, drink, and take advantage of girls.
Dumb comment Fred and you know it.
Gonzo,
Who is Darren Hiller? What school would he be coming from?
Anyways!
Great news on the hires! If Miller comes we could be excellent shape. Someone give his wife a job.
Very nice. Cardwell is inspirational AND the other guy played at the higest level. BQ come back and get the specifics you need this summer.
good news…..welcome back Nic
The field doesn’t care. http://vimeo.com/6782238
He’s the former O-line coach at Arkansas State. He put together some great units during his ten year tenure there.
I’m an idiot for spelling principal as principle
Last time I checked we are a teaching university. She is a principal? Make her university staff!!!
Another “Official” hire
http://www.goasu.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=21500&ATCLID=205368604
Gotta have a Spring Game!
How are we looking on the recruiting front?
remember Gonzo, the principal is your pal.
Does it seem weird to anyone else that we don’t have a Special Teams coach?
Dr. Gonzo
There’s a strong possibility that Darren Hiller will be our new O-coach. It would be a great addition.
You are correct. He would be a super good addition to the staff. If he is hired I believe that we will have assembled the best coaching staff we have had in decades.
Satterfield is doing a hell of a job putting together a quality solid group of coaches. You never really know for sure how the chemistry on the staff will really be until practice starts. But it sure looks good on paper.
Clayton
thanks
love that one
dont jump on our staff wagon. it wont handle you guys. stay negative this spin you guys are trying now doesnt suit you. i need to hear how we need some sec or big ten coaches to come here not the guys jerry coached and recruited. he may have influenced them. this site hasnt been that supportive of jerry or anyone associated with him so dont get on now. just whine like always. spring game? how bout a full crowd for just one basketball game. tickets are cheap and we have had one sell out in our new facilities history. we need to have roy come back so you non appfans will show up. by the way we can afford the travel of c usa if we supprt our program and up our giving
Glad to know we are basing next year”s possible success / failure on the hiring of new coaches. IT is almost comical. Please tell me what programs have continued success after a coaching change in FCS.
As I predict, next year will be Moore’s last year as if the writing was not already on the wall. Gonzo, go give App thunder a hand job
Ever since I made that masterbation joke you haven’t stopped talking about it. It’s getting a little weird. Both hands on the keyboard Fred.
Gonzo, you might get more out of Yosef if you use both hands. I only speak this after hearing your experience jackoff
And the trend continues….
Anyway, App is beating UNCG at the half
Clayton had to go post that video and make me a hyped up wanting to tackle someone. I might throw on a jersey and just light people up in the Harris Teeter parking lot. THE PARKING LOT DON’T CARE!
Meanwhile in Greensboro we’re getting out played and out coached. Had a 30-13 lead in the first half. Since then it has been a 48-24 run for unc-g.
App has bball? What’s the score of the UNC game?
OT!! What a game
Fred-You are SICK!!
IT is almost comical. Please tell me what programs have continued success after a coaching change in FCS.
Georgia Southern – New staff 2010
Montana – New staff 2009
Sam Houston State – New staff 2010
Those are 3 of the 4 national semifinalists from this year with winning traditions that have continued after coaching changes. Other than that, your logic is flawless.
i think that all of the “mid___insert region” names that have surfaced, (obviously not midwest who like him/her is a force in his own right) and fred are one and the same.
I think Hiller signed with Ole Miss a couple weeks ago.
Think about this… we all know that ASU has become a stepping stone for coaches to launch their coaching careers into the FBS level and beyond… that being said complete overhauls like the one we saw this off-season are very important. This is commonsensical idea… good coaches move up, average and poor coaches don’t… without these overhauls we would be left with all of the ASU coaching positions filled with average and below average coaches…. clean house of the average and below average every few years, make room for the talented and try to hold on to em for as long as we can….
Or move up and keep the talented coaches.
The office Cubicals don’t Care!
bcoach: From what I’ve heard, he was offered a position at Ole Miss but the OL coaching spot had already been filled and it was a lesser role. It was reported that he was going there but we approached him about the OL coaching job and he showed interest, as that is the position he wants to be in. Nothing has been finalized but we appeared to be in a good position to land him as recently as about a week ago.
I’m just keeping my fingers crossed for now, it would be great to get him on board.
BQ taking questions at the Senior Bowl press conference
https://twitter.com/#!/JoshBDraft/status/162914293854126081/photo/1/large
Bcoach,
Looking on the Ole Miss website, it looks like Matt Luke is the O-Line coach at Ole Miss. I don’t think Hiller will be coaching there.
http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/m-footbl-coaches.html
When we move up the talented coaches will still move higher. Just like in business you keep bringing in young talent and train them. The days of coaches staying in one place for 20 years are over. You can’t hire a good staff then sit back. Managing a class A athletic program at any level is a continual process. Just look around you. Nobody stays in any job forever except politicians. The trick is to have enough experience on staff to teach the new guys. I am looking at the fact that we have hired some guys with very little experience. I also see that we are trying to fill in with experienced guys. A great example was trying to get Hiller for the OL coach. We will be fine. This season may be a little rough with heavy on the may, but we are going to be just fine as long as we keep the pipeline of potential coaches full. If we are looking only for coaches who will stay for a long time we are not looking for the best. The job of any good manager is to look down the road. He ALWAYS must be thinking ” If joe blow leaves who do I want to replace him”. I have never been in a position where I lost someone by my choice or theirs that I was not on the phone with a potential replacement within the hour.
I think JM and his assistant are doing just fine.
I am going to also throw this out, and I am serious. I would love to see Appthunder90 or someone like him in our marketing department. We need to cultivate the student fan. Student participation in sporting events is falling across the country. A great example is that Duke has not filled the student section for BB with students in 3 years. They are selling tickets in the student section. Look at our student bail out at the half even in close games. We have complained about that and I have been very vocal about it but have we investigated why? They need to join us and someday replace us. If we move we will also need to grow in numbers. Fans who leave every game at the half are not future season ticket holders. Let’s not condem them for leaving till we find out why. Hey 90, go talk to Charlie.
Yes I know it was not going to be OL coach but an undisclosed position which he was supposed to have accepted at that time. Great news that has caused him to re think and look at us. Would love to get him.
Fred is dildos.
BQ column from the Charlotte Observer:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/01/27/2962598/for-appalachian-receiver-brian.html
midwest:
S.T.F.U. and go troll on another site.
Anyone who uses the word “troll” loses any respect on this site and in general life.
bcoach,
thanks for the vote of confidence! I can tell you the reason behind the half-time attrition but it isn’t pretty and some people on here aren’t ready to hear it but I will. There are several:
1. Students dont care about southern conference football
2. Students dont care about meac football.
3. it has become a social event because the millenial generation (mine) does not know the meaning of the words loyalty, appreciation, and dedication. Instead they focus on entitlement. we should win by 50 points because we are asu. The flip-side to this, is that when we are winning by 50 points, they feel they need to leave because its “not even close”. So fickle is as fickle does.
4. folks, this is the hangover after the national championships and michigan. It’s time to grab a glass of orange juice, take an aspirin and get back in the game.
I don’t think I would be good for the marketing department with no prior experience and my field of study is accounting. Heres a slogan to try out, “Balance your checkbook by cutting a check to Yosef!”
Thunder,
As someone who worked for ASU and knows a little bit how the athletic department works, including the marketing department, your major could be “pottery & cetamics” and you’d have more to bring to the table than what we had currently.
Here’s something else people don’t want to hear: if we have the same administrative personelle (excluding CC & KP to avoid controversy) running the show when/if we move to a new conference we will be in further over our heads than we already are. That’s a fact. Some of the things that go on in our athletic department would never be tolerated by schools at a higher level. It’s a Good ‘Ol Boys Club.
If we do move to a new conference I hope we hire people that are at the very least competent… And when I say competent I mean acknowledge that football markets itself and understand that App has other sports including basketball.
“Pottery and Ceramics”** jeez
Football doesn’t market itself. Even that program needs help, preferably something better than the “No Equal” campaign during/after which we’ve had consecutively less successful seasons. Poor timing, as it turned out.
But football needs, or at least has recently needed, less help than all the other sports. Perhaps if we had something worth marketing in those–e. g., a consistent winner in the only other (supposed) revenue sport, men’s basketball–promoting other sports would be easier. As it is, football is the only sport that brings in enough revenue to justify marketing expenditures, and until basketball wins that will remain the case. Not necessarily the appropriate conclusion, granted, but that’s how many would think.
All this aside, however, we definitely need more competency in and around the entire athletic program in general, and in fund raising and marketing in particular. It has always been something of the “good ole boys club” you reference.
Appdreamin
Naturally football does not literally market itself. For the most part I think you and I are on the same page. However, I believe one of the downfalls of the athletic/marketing dept has been neglecting to get students to care about and attend basketball. I’m not assuming every student would show up and care. But as someone who has been a recent student I know that in general the students could tell you off the top of their head when the next basketball game is. I have my own opinions as to how that might be able to work. But nevertheless I believe MUCH more can be done to get the students involved with our basketball program.
*could NOT tell you off the top of their head
I think our agreement is more than just “for the most part.”
But I also think that students in particular and most App fans in general aren’t going to go out of their way to support a losing program. All this “We’re close to being (some better record than we have)” business is bull. To paraphrase Denny Greene (I believe), we are what our record says we are. Until our record is at least respectable, attendance won’t improve significantly. When the on-court performance improves consistently, so MAY attendance. It is at that point that an intelligent marketing effort could yield real results; until then, I doubt that even qualified pros would be very successful getting people in the seats for App basketball.
As far as students are concerned I think an immediate improvement in attendance can be made. I think that is vitally important on a long term basis. If a 20 year old student doesn’t care about the team while he’s at school will he care when he’s 30?
Probably not. Read Thunder’s post somewhere in response to a post from bcoach. He’s a 20-something current student and he says App students in general don’t care about SoCon basketball.
I don’t really know why that is–because students cared when I was at App, with no more (maybe even less) promotion than is presently the case–unless it’s because we’re now generally not competitive on a consistent basis. Throughout my time in Boone, we consistently had winning records and were usually in contention for the conference title. Admittedly, there was even less to do in Boone then than is now the case, so maybe that’s another factor.
Some say our basketball would improve if we moved to a better league. Maybe it would, but in any league of which we’re likely to be a part, if we didn’t win I still don’t think the newbies–including students–would show up at games on a consistent basis. For the sake of the program, I’d like to be wrong and I’d like you to be correct. But experience and observation tells me I’m not and you’re not.
No new coaches news but ASU picked up three solid commitments this weekend. One who had committed to Cincy, one from FIU, and one from Ga Southern.
That does not bode well for our future. Look around the Josef club. Lots of grey hair.
i didnt say anything about app basketball, my post was about halftime attrition at football games. for what its worth, the bball games i have been at have looked like quite a few more students than last year
Sorry, I obviously misread your first point.
However, though I misquoted and completely missed your actual meaning, the principle is the same. If students don’t care about SoCon football, which in our case is generally a winning endeavor with at least some shot at playing for a NC trophy, how could they be expected to care about SoCon basketball, especially when we lose as often as not and, even when we win, have absolutely zero chance at winning anything meaningful beyond the conference title?
I probably misread your statement at least partially because it’s pretty incomprehensible to me that current App students wouldn’t take pride in and be supportive of the football program. Bcoach is correct–way too many Yosef members are two, three or more decades removed from their App graduation. If your assessment is correct, the future for fund-raising growth is pretty dim.
dreamin
it is perfectly alright, what i said also applies to basketball but i just wanted to restore the context of the quote. i agree, because i bleed black and gold. i am at just about every home game from start to finish and i make as many away games as i can on a college student’s budget. rather than incomprehensible, i consider it reprehensible that some students at app have come to view the games as only a social event and not a chance to watch our guys play their hearts out. this is the mark of casual fans. it means we have arrived at the scene. i believe this year will be different with a revitalization of the coaching staff there is lots of buzz around the program. its also hard to watch the same play over and over and over again ad nauseum. this is getting ready to change with ss as oc. very pleased with that and extremely pleased with this recruiting class
Nic played ball at my rival high school.
Great guy; super excited to have him back in the Black and Gold!
AppStU2008
did you go to East?